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As Barack Obama’s chief fundraiser, Matthew Barzun was acclaimed for encouraging many small-scale donors to contribute in 2008 and again in 2012. As the United States Ambassador to the United Kingdom, Barzun, together with his wife Brooke, initiated town meetings in schools all over Britain, and opened up Winfield House, his official residence, to artists, …

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The twenty-fifth episode of GREAT PODVERSATIONS features Matthew speaking with Amy Edmondson about the book.

In the conversation, Joshua and Matthew discuss: The constellation mindset Downsides of the traditional pyramid mindset The importance of broadening our perspective Why we should embrace uncertainty How to think about wisdom and much more